It’s ladies day at the sauna in my local gym in East Berlin and I’m almost mesmerized by the amount of flesh on show. I’ve found myself sharing the small wooden enclosure with three elderly East German ladies all of whom are blessed with ham-like thighs and the most impressively enormous pendulous breasts.
The women are nattering away as I slink in and soon draw me into their conversation. They tell me about growing up in the area and how much it has changed. They all worked as nurses and in their day they had no time for hanging out in cafes with their strollers like all the current trendy mums in the hood. I nod and smile and sweat, all the time slightly mortified because I am Irish and NAKED IN FRONT OF STRANGERS.
It’s something I’ve had get used to in a city where people whip off their clothes willy-nilly. In saunas, at the gym, badminton courts, the parks, a friend even reported seeing someone wearing just a purse and flip-flops in a shop, the Germans are happy to let it all hang out, no matter what the size or shape. In the summer you can barely go a week without encountering a bronzed-to- within-an inch- of-leather figure coming at you.
Coming from a nation that should get a prize for the ability to put on swimsuits with one hand while clinging for dear life to the corners of a towel with the other, this can be a traumatic encounter. And eventually there is little choice but to join in. Never mind the bratwurst and the biergartens, the sign of true integration is being able to get naked with the Germans.
And far from being some kind of army of extras in a Leni Riefenstahl film, they are not really that dissimilar from us. A bit taller, a bit less pear-shaped, not quite so pasty, but they have scar tissue, purple veins and knobbly knees too and the weight of gravity works as much on their breasts and buttocks as on the rest of us.
It’s just something they have no absolutely no self-consciousness about. Nudism has been something of a cause in Germany since the 19th century and in the 20s became associated with all kinds of utopian ideals. FKK, Freiekörperkulutur (free body culture) is as ingrained as having mayonnaise with your chips or a strange obsession with white asparagus. In the former East it was particularly popular, a sort of escape from the preponderance of uniforms, pins and badges that declared one’s loyalty to the communist regime. In nudity everyone truly was equal.
Public disrobing has become easier over time. It is simply quicker and easier to perform a clean strip at the swimming pool or sauna than all that rigmarole of hiding the bits that everyone else is displaying so nonchalantly. And the city is also full of great Turkish baths where you hang about semi naked for hours, popping in and out of the saunas and steam rooms and sipping mint tea. No one is batting an eyelid so in the end you don’t too much yourself, at least not too much. Somewhere the Catholic schoolgirl within is still uncomfortable with so much brazenness.
My first real plunge was back in the mid 90s. I shared a ramshackle flat with two other Irish lasses in the former East. The toilet was out on the landing and there was no bathroom but for a few blessed months the contraption of a shower that had been erected in our kitchen worked fine. It took half an hour to heat up the water in the tank per shower, and we often had another 3 or 4 people sleeping on our floor, but that was what mornings were for, to sit around drinking tea and coffee and talking about maybe looking for a job as a cleaner that afternoon… or tomorrow… or next week.
Then the shower broke and our neighbour downstairs came to the rescue. Martin, an East Berliner, had the luxury of a bachelor pad all to himself, though this consisted of one room, with open plan kitchen and shower. I didn’t know Martin that well, I had arrived to the city later than the other two and had managed to avoid this exhibitionist cleansing ritual by having a boyfriend not too far away with a tremendously fabulous bathroom. Then me and the fella sort of split up and it was perhaps the white tiles, the gleaming taps and the shower nozzle that I missed the most.
So off I trudged to Martins with my towel and shampoo and not a little trepidation. He flung back the door, wearing his tie-dyed t-shirt and a bleary-eyed look from too much of something, and pottered back to his armchair to listen to dub music; Martin only ever listened to dub music. Here goes, I thought. I quickly shed my clothes on the floor, hopped into the shower unit and had the fastest soap and scrub known to womanhood, before shoving on my clothes again, grunting Danke and running back upstairs.
A few hours later my flatmate came back from her own shower hooting with laughter. “You stripped in front of bloody Martin!” “Er, yes isn’t that what you guys have been doing?” She snorted in disbelief. Oh no, like the demure well-brought up ladies they were, they always brought an extra towel to hang over the side of the shower, shielding them from their host’s gaze
From then on Martin was a lot friendlier to me, not in a creepy way, just in a way that implied acceptance and respect. That said: Hey, Mädel, you are one of us now.

Very amusing. This attitude to nakedness is not exclusive to the German’s. Recently I stayed in a traditional Japanese hotel where cleanliness was next to Godliness. Before breakfast a somewhat delicious woman member of staff came to my room with a special laundered dressing gown and a ‘bath only’ pair of slippers and who dressed me and led me to the bath room, a large tub full of hot steaming water and occupied by naked men and women. She de-robed me and I climbed naked into the bath where I was totally disregarded by everyone. There was no soap (it would spoil the wood) and you had to wait there while turning various shades of red until all the grime had been drawn from your body. Vive la differance.
Minor correction FKK = Freie Körper Kultur (The Frei Korps is another, less savoury beast entirely)
Hi Aonghus, thanks for pointing that (very crucial!) difference out, though Siobhan does say Freiekörperkultur in the main piece – there just seems to be a typo in the tags, which I will change now…
I think there was also a typo in the main piece which has been fixed. I lived for ten yeas there and I’m not sure I ever got used to the nudity – nor is it a general thing even among Berliners; just not an unusual thing.
Yeah, I think it’s just so different from here that even a few people stripping off casually in public really stands out to Irish people. It wasn’t like everyone was sunbathing topless in city centre parks on their lunchbreaks, but just seeing one or two women doing it was a bit of a shock.
Hilarious! Still though, I couldn’t. Even to integrate I couldn’t go around in the nip. People might see!
Ah, how well I remember spending the summer of 1995 in Berlin and being amazed by the happy willingness of many Deutschers to take most their clothes off in public parks in the middle of the afternoon. Two years of university German had not prepared me for this. And I’m not sure my repressed little Irish self ever got totally used to it over that summer. My friends and I would be lying on the grass fully clad in jeans and t-shirts, while the German people nearby – male and female – would be down to their pants. We didn’t know which way to look…
Also, we were subletting our flat in Charlottenburg from a couple who were yoga teachers and their home was full of photos of them doing yoga poses. Sometimes naked. It was traumatic.
The naked thing extends to mainstream publications, of course – what former German student can forget the sight of Bravo, the totally mainstream teenagers’ magazine which used to feature full-frontal nude photos of readers both male and female (and possibly still does, for all I know)? I have to admire their lack of hang-ups about nudity, even though I’d have to live there for much longer than the few months I spent there in 1995 to ever share them…
Lovely post. I used to spend a lot of time in Finland and it was the same there going into mixed saunas. I must admit that I have never understood this Irish hang-up about nakedness. I really like that espect of Germany and many other northern European countries.
“In the former East it was particularly popular, a sort of escape from the preponderance of uniforms, pins and badges that declared one’s loyalty to the communist regime. In nudity everyone truly was equal.”
Cool, I’ve heard the exact same sentiment used for Japan’s hot springs: a “naked communion” where people shed their uniforms and hierarchal relationships.
Fabulous entry. Every bit chimed with some hazy nineties memory of mine, including showering in the kitchen, toilet on the landing and Germans being shocked and pitying when I confessed to Irish prudery when getting changed, as though I had some half-forgotten nineteenth-century plague.
My favourite East German nude moment was going swimming with my then beau, his sister, her husband and their two little girls; I thought trying to make conversation with the naked husband would be traumatic enough, but I didn’t realise quite how disturbing it would be to see my naked beau gambolling with two naked little girls in the surf. At times like these, I wonder whether a little Irish prudishness is not in fact a good thing.
Oooh, my idea of hell. I hate being naked, and I certainly don’t want to be surrounded by naked strangers all putting their squidgy bits down on shared surfaces. I’m such a frikkin’ prude. It’s not the nakedness of others that bothers me, but my own nudity.
Oooh yeah, going pink just thinking about it.
Thanks for the giggle tho, Siobhan – and welcome to the Anti-Room!
Was thinking of posting something similar recently, not about relaxed German attitudes to nudity but about Irish women’s prudishness. Having lived in London for many years I was amazed upon my return at the demure attitudes of Irish women – in all-female changing areas. To see a woman walk naked across a changing room is rare indeed. Instead, the awkward crouching-under-a-towel manoevre is still the norm. God forbid that another woman might catch a glimpse of nipple! I have found that young women are almost worse than their older counterparts. I used to swim at a University sports complex and the young students, less than half my age and in considerably better shape, were the most modest.
Why are they so ashamed of their bodies? Without wanting to stray off topic too much, I have often wondered if this is connected with the low breastfeeding rates in this country.
I’m English and we fall a bit between the German and Irish norms, but I’ve always wondered whether German teenagers have better body image than British teenagers. When I was fourteen, the only things I had to compare my body with were my mum (like, OMG, no way) and pictures of models in magazines. When I watch teenage girls in Germany growing up and seeing all sorts of women’s bodies at the Freibad and in parks and everywhere else, I wonder whether they have a more realistic idea of how normal diversity is.
(Apologies – forgot I was logged in with my work account!)
Heh, the dangers of multiple accounts! I’ll just bin the comment left by the work one.
So true! Especially the comment about the former East. My American children were first embarrassed, but then amused by how easily grown-ups on the island of Rugen stripped to swim, picnic or play volleyball (okay, that last drew a horrified gasp from my pre-teen son).
Sounds great – we’re way too prudish about nudiness in this country. Besides, I don’t have the dexterity or patients to get dressed or undressed with a towel.
I love it!! If nothing else it would be wonderful to realise that everyone else’s squidgy bits were the same as mine. I would especially love to see lots of stretch-marked slightly podgy post children bellies, it might make me feel more accepting of my own.
As an American who lived in Berlin, I am enjoying this discussion so much! Will also tell you there are some real regional differences in the states re: attitudes toward nudity. My first novel is set in a hippie community on the West Coast and includes a naked play rehearsal. A number of my midwestern readers have found that a bit shocking. Not so much the West Coasters…
Love this story! I grew up going to bath houses in Japan so nudity wasn’t a big issue for me until we moved to the US. I still find myself shocked at television shows like “Embarassing Bodies” here in Ireland/UK because in the US you could *never* show programming like that on a regular television station (it’d have to be HBO or the like). I feel very prudish when I gasp at a television ad for bodywash that actually shows a woman’s bare bum – again, you could never get away with that in America.
So, believe it or not, us Yanks are even more conservative about nudity than the Irish!
As an Austrian having moved to Ireland via Germany I completely agree. More than the gym/sauna issue, however, I was struck by the prudishness of the medical sector. In Germany/Austria I almost always had to take off my top at the doctor’s (no matter what the ailment was) but here I had for example a chest x-ray taken with my sweater on and a nurse saying to me: “I’m afraid you have to take your *whisper* bra off!” Which I did from underneath my clothes and without any indecent exposure.